"Expect this pattern to be repeated until it sweeps the ANC out of power" - Frans Cronje

In this thought provoking interview, the outgoing CEO of the Institute of Race Relations, Frans Cronje, joined Alec Hogg to unpack the violent anarchy that has tormented parts of South Africa. Cronje has been warning South Africa about the prospect of what has happened over the last 72 hours. "Regrettably, we've got this call right," he says. When asked what he sees happening in South Africa, Cronje notes that "it's straightforward. More than half of young people do not have a job. They wake up every morning, not sure of what the day is going to hold for them. They don't have the dignity of labour and earning something. That's a very powerful social force. Our schools are rubbish, frankly. About four in 100 kids will pass maths in high school - with a grade of 50% of higher." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices