How to Stop Being an Naai by Mia Arderne (with Yaaseen Barnes)

Loading player...
“How do you stop being a naai? Die. That’s how you stop.”

Comedian Yaaseen Barnes sits down with author Mia Arderne for a lively, laugh-out-loud conversation on her new novel How to Stop Being an Naai — a satirical take on the self-help genre and one of the sharpest, funniest reads of the year. Together they unpack the book’s origins as a sincere personal guide, the midlife crisis that gave birth to protagonist Lucian, the research rabbit holes (including TRC documents) that pulled the story into darker places than she intended, and the one question that quietly sits at the heart of it all: can you really stop being a naai, or is it the cost of surviving under capitalism?

Mia Arderne’s new book is How to Stop Being an Naai. A satirical take on the self-help genre, it follows protagonist Lucian — an aging DJ having a full-blown midlife crash-out — as he’s put through the steps of becoming a better person.

Mia Arderne is a South African author. Her debut novel Mermaid Fillet introduced readers to a world of mermaid-tail smuggling on the black market.

Yaaseen Barnes is a celebrated South African comedian known for his sharp wit and dynamic performances.

Profanity warning: this episode contains strong language.
26 Oct English South Africa Books · Society & Culture

Other recent episodes

Roelf Meyer: A Political Memoir by Roelf Meyer (with Tony Leon)

“We were negotiating the impossible.” Few people have shaped modern South Africa as directly as these two. Veteran statesman Tony Leon sits down with Ambassador Roelf Meyer for a wide-ranging, candid conversation on his new book Roelf Meyer: A Political Memoir. Together they trace Roelf’s unlikely journey from a sheep…
9 Nov 42 min

Worst Week Ever by Eva Amores and Matt Cosgrove

“Translated into 33 languages, available in over 50 countries.” Children’s book illustrator and reviewer Mia van der Merwe sits down with the Sydney-based husband-and-wife team behind one of the biggest middle-grade phenomena in the world. Author Eva Amores and illustrator Matt Cosgrove join Pagecast live from their South African school…
19 Oct 27 min

There's Something I Must Tell You by Sue Williamson (with Penny Siopis)

"The sweep of it, seeing all those years, is quite extraordinary for an artist." Internationally renowned South African artist Penny Siopis sits down with Sue Williamson for a wide-ranging conversation on her new book There's Something I Must Tell You, published to accompany her landmark retrospective at the Iziko South…
5 Oct 21 min

Kitsie: Memoir of a Bomb-Squad Bok by Steven Kitshoff (with Nick Mallett)

"There was a job to be done." Legendary Springbok coach Nick Mallett sits down with former Springbok prop Steven Kitshoff for a rich, generous conversation on his new memoir Kitsie: Memoir of a Bomb-Squad Bok. They unpack the origins of the Bomb Squad — the name that came from a…
23 Sep 29 min